hello HACC @ divoc
(day 1, 14:30)
Table of Contents
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General contact channels of hacc
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AND MAILINGLIST via:
Presentations (order of appearance)
always happy to collaborate
set up wlan hotspot
infinite server capacity
immense matrix server
nidi @ stuttgart: (firstname.lastname@example.org / @nidi:matrix.org)
parents for future
bits & bäume
"most comm in 4future still happens in slack/whatsapp, and we want to change this"
sometimes you try to give them infra, and you reach "refusal"
so: how can we get matrix to the future groups?
these groups (whatsapp etc) also exclude people!
rw ( email@example.com; @cAkwNLHysr:matrix.org (rw) ):
alps protection group asked hacc.mucc to setup a communication platform
they were a more traditional organization
before they had an excel spreadsheet with contact info! :)
for now you can add my junk mail: firstname.lastname@example.org ^^
of course, let's keep in touch :) I also have a meetup session on sunday
was at biosummit: "biohacker congress at mit media lab"
biosummit is online: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM316zz7Ycpy7Wp-qT6uj_Q
berghof foundation on climate change and political stability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS_2sx_6NNk&list=PLMDi3H3BvL79mXpQux8PfMItt2oQ_zl-s&index=9
ah, the "Open Source Biotechies" session?
maybe i'll join, even though i don't really know anything about biotech 🙈 (perhaps people there could point me to some introductory material/books/something?)
* "you're fans of free software, but i think it's important to stop the climate catastrophe - "that's the highest priority"
* but "politics can destabilize, and to circumvent this threats, it's a good idea to already organize own infra at this point"
"we should prepare"
* Reasons for Free Software in Climate groups:
- Use independent infrastructure / avoid backdooring infrastructure / current political situation rather unstable / protect activists
- Sustainability: Free software isn't just going away; contact to upstream is possible and great
- Better: Can be adjusted to our needs - the struggle is getting rather more complex than easier
problem of user friendliness barrier
we tell them "use signal"
pads can be problematic
examples of people writing phone numbers of everyone
* "we haven't found a way to bridge, getting things accross"
A) make everybody and everything chaos
B) trying to spread good opsec culture, long-term, and just deal with all the "resistance"
C) talking to people:
what are your needs
what do you unlike about the tools
* make clear the advantages, especially configurability
* "we can talk to upstream"
* "we can make things better"
(re mattermost: it's not actually so easy to talk to them as a typical OS project)
(to move away from just infra talk What else can we do?)
1) battle misinformation (presentation!):
science communicators are doing their best, but we need something
offer "re-information" against "mis-information"
it needs proper design
sun: can you write down this institute opinion?
I saw it in a talk from the Berghof foundation
cool, is there an actual discussion going out after drostens comments on misinformation? where?
2) ... produce actual content:
B&B started a knowledge DB of "climate facts"
"should be better than a wiki - more fine grained"
an info gathering!
so it could also be collected!
"what should it look like":
tagged db of articles/studies?
"there's knowledge based tools but they're kind of heavy"
idea of "zettelkasten"
* (anti-corporate!) these "hackathons" are...
trying to push their products
want to expropriate our work
"all consulting groups have their own social business schools"
non-profits are not enough!
also non-profits are still highly hierarchical, mostly. :/
* (how can we sustain ourselves?) how about HACKBASES :)
but hackerspaces aren't as widespread/common outside Europe...
ooooh, is there a handy list of these hackbases?
*** (VIA ROOM CHAT)
WG: c3sus (got a lot of love)
WG: hacking ecology group!
(we need to get back in touch with, impressive)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM316zz7Ycpy7Wp-qT6uj_Q -> the whole biosummit is online
just subscribed to the https://lists.posteo.de/listinfo/hackingecology mailing list, but apparently it's not active — the archive just says "no messages have been sent to this list yet, so the archive is empty"
### we should send them a ping! :)
(hacc.wiki is being deprecated)
Also called eventgrid
@stuebinm: I will make a link collection with some good resources :)
mattermost anyone? :)
Hasn't mattermost been forked by xr?
i think it was, yes, will have to look into if their version is more approachable
(hm, can't even find their source code — perhaps I'll write to write to them and ask …)
pad with some collection of infos
I see some people picking it up on twitter
#purv was tha tag I guess :)
@stuebinm: there was a talk in xr it infrastructure @ccc Congress 2019
Is there a Problem with the system? ;)
I mean capitalism!
(CURRENT HACC COLLABORATION SPACES)
will integrate all to → 3
https://hacc.uber.space/Information_sources is down?
yeah, the wiki is down, I contact one of the admins
what's the best way to keep in touch?
Is there a chatroom perhaps?
Bye, i will go to watch https://pretalx.c3voc.de/divoc-reboot-to-respawn-2021/talk/MF8A7V/
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