divoc-2
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(day 2, 14:00)

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(Yesterday's session)

https://pad.land/divoc-1



Presentations (order of appearance)

* Tim

* sun



presenting the hXs model

https://pad.hacc.space/hxs



research at Öko Institut

https://www.oeko.de/presse/archiv-pressemeldungen/presse-detailseite/2021/entwurf-netzentwicklungsplan-2035-strom-haelt-klimaziele-nicht-ein
https://www.oeko.de/das-institut/team

oeko institut is a ~~ "gemeineinzig"
### (sp?)



bashing capitalist green-washing

https://www.socialeurope.eu/venturing-the-green-transformation
"Under the European Green Deal, venture-capital firms are expected to play a vital investment role—one for which they are singularly ill-suited. "

dcht00 bashes https://purpose-economy.org/en/ 



[!!] "how do you get funded without getting politically influenced"

funding
Hackersapce in Darmstadt only financed by memebers

example: hackers want to do a project concering air pollution, but we can't fund the project



dcht00: checkout my weird license, ensuring non-legal enforcement of "sharing"
https://totalism.org/comrade-license
also https://totalism.org/postmarket

sun: ~ "we were merging our efforts with a corporation to scale up the knowledge, but we protected ourselves with releasing it in advance already"
https://openbioeconomy.org/



[!!] you can match people, but also pads:
yes! match people to topics/content where they ought to contribute
dcht00: pads are like a scrapyard (we collect things together, Editors help put them in the right place in later stages, so they can be reused)


etherpad (+E2H) vs hedgedoc
we agree markdown is nice, but also not inclusive and can be a problem
"the inconsistancy of selection + brackets and selection + * is annoying"
"oh god we had some pads on the germany fridaysforfuture clound and it was annoying af"
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d demonstrates e2h, and the symbolic/syntax system used there to make bigger indexes, etc
        https://totalism.org/projects
        https://totalism.org/oversee
        https://totalism.org/non-shitty
        https://totalism.org/systematics



dcht00: phytocenology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytosociology


nice linux cooperative !

leo mentions https://envs.net


[!!] apropos: we can also match "haccers X infra"

we need a protocol/flow for this!
to be successful in:
    discovering, promoting, matching, maintaining, evaluating, etc !



[!!] RW: "our servers are just idling around"
"we pay 150€/month"

would it be possible to do more to fill them up?
who can we offer to, and what?



[!] hackers, also around CCC, need better models of self-organization

of course Engel system comes to mind as good for "tasks":
    but how about creative work that gets executed?

Komona is a great model of functional (anarchist) community organization
also a #hxbase
https://events.ccc.de/congress/2019/wiki/index.php/Static:Assemblies






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