hs.org regular monthly meeting
started 2021-04-08 18:00 UTC
meetings index: https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Meetings
previous meeting: https://pad.land/hso-20210318
used jitsi: https://talk.fdn.fr/hackerspaces20210408
dcht00, zeno4ever, jo, lomanic, aria
Table of Contents
[!] WIKI/BUG -- wth are all map markers doubled :)
[K] looking at mapall.space
* doesn't force SSL! >zeno4ever [Done, redirect to https]
* how does https://spaceapi.io/ work?:
→ you have to make a descriptor file and open a PR to the GitHub project where a centralized list of spaces is maintained to add your space! https://github.com/SpaceAPI/directory
contributions @ wiki
You can see what:
"update to update" = space is still active, no change, just added comments
"update to inactive" = changes ACTIVE→SUSPECTED INACTIVE (status specific added for Wikibot!)
how it works
bot (in principle) makes changes 1/every year, after 1 year of no changes on the wiki page
(+) it sends a ping to the people
(-) it leaves some trash behind in the page :)
[!] WIKI/BOT -- mapall.space bot: D's proposal
add two new fields:
* last changed, non bot
* last changed, by bot
* think about it
* can semanticwiki make a "last changed by non-wikibot"
[!!] WIKI -- explore designating wikibot as bot
that might also solve the "recent changes"
[R!] CENSUS/BOT -- spaces to check manually
the bot does automatic "active" or "passive" checking for spaces
procedure info & decision it needs manual intervention with:
[!] CENSUS -- updates +aimee?
seek to get some update / status :)
maybe making an interview?
* how to check recent updates without the bot?
* could bot not flip the "last updated"?
* could you also show residencies?
[!] WIKI/BUG -- filters in "recent changes" doesn't work
(saw a hint somewhere it might be about "job queues"!)
killer feature = "is space open right now"
[!] >dcht00 —— talk to spaceapi about "exchanges" and "hackbases"
where do they meet? https://matrix.to/#/#spaceapi:matrix.coredump.ch
who's a contact'
other nice space.api projects
heatmap of when spaces are open
zeno4ever also maintains
[!] let's establish contact with spaceAPI
would be nice to include them in some talk
[!] "promoting in the USA of spaceAPI would be cool"
[!] PRIVACY -- the page is not GDPR compliant
and that's not only a legality ... these laws have a function
[!] PRIVACY/PROTOCOL -- have a clear log policy
we're currently not really dropping logs
[!!!] ADMIN/SEC -- mediawiki version update
current version is EOL.
how does the procedure do?
do we have/do staging?
* i did it before, but don't remember exactly how :)
* php was updated recently (to something like 7.3 or 7.4)
* there's really no staging
[!] WIKI/IDEA -- it would be interesting to see all spaces that closed
A) via the bot:
also to double-check
B) just in any way:
to have insight into patterns
Look for hackerspace status of "suspected inactive", this is only set by the wikibot!
[~] SERVICE -- what's up with signal.hackerspaces.org
is cname to https://signal.sonologic.net
no idea how it works or who does that?:
-> gmc is a dutch hacker, zeno/dave know where to find him kind off
but sounds pretty cool
[K!] SERVICE/ACCESS -- twitter @hakerspacesbot
jomat had access:
spread to @dcht00 and xeno4ever (@daveborghuis)
[!] ideas to improve @hackerspacesbot
* co-write and maintain (on these meetings) posting policy → new pad!
* twitter lists:
* all hackspaces
* per language, area, topic, etc
* retweet international events (especially if they offer online participation)
[!!!C] ADMIN/SEC -- making a server account for backups
it will be borg
[!!] you can just "frost the key"
(will continue in private)
dcht00: command="cd /home/bbackup/repos/my.server.example.com/;borg serve --append-only --restrict-to-path /home/bbackup/repos/my.server.example.com/",no-port-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding,no-pty,no-agent-forwarding,no-user-rc ssh-rsa AAAAB3...
[!!!] ADMIN/LIST/BUG -- d's mail to tech@ didn't arrive
(Sent 20210407 20:52 GMT)
[!] ... check logs for mails
jo: "lots of emails rejected by icloud"
[!!!] WIKI/BUG -- image upload doesn't seem to work
(this seems for a few months already)
[!!] ADMIN/WIKI/BUG -- redirect old style wiki broken links
→ Redirect to https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Page, with what's used as a web server
[!] SERVICE -- make a DASHBOARD, as a checklist for features
* mailing lists
* image upload
* wiki maps
[!] SERVICE/DECISION -- deprecating jabber
* it's dead for 2 years already
* it wasn't really used before that
* there's no way to get the data
* it would be interesting for somebody that used it, to write a report/history of it:
how many people used it
was it ever really active
"it was metalab's server ... most people had accounts there"
→ decided: we retire it in the various communication pages & links
[!!!] DECISION/ADMIN -- change hackerspaces.org landing page to redirect to wiki.hackerspaces.org
like back in the old days
* it used to be directly to the wiki, why did this chage? (archive.org confirms this https://web.archive.org/web/2014/http://hackerspaces.org/ )
* dates are wrong, most links are wrong, and anyway, it should be a part of the wiki so it's easily editable
→ we decide to change this back :)
B) "proxy pass"
→ we decide for redirect.
[!] DECISION/PROTOCOL -- maintaining services and admins
we seem to have many services & admins that we don't know, haven't heard from in a while, or aren't sure if we can even reach.
→ decided to do: "the dutch approach" ;)
send one mail, give a month time frame to answer,
if they don't, sorry.
→ also: rename the "retired staff" part to "idle" / "inactive"
[E!!] PRIVACY/SEC/PROTOCOL -- admins list: public or not public
B) those who want
C) nobody, just write down tech@
* maybe have "single point of depreciation"
* but also, it's nice to be famous lol...
"people to talk to" section
so people can find you
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